So "this specific group of people" that were presented with the Quran, and did not accept it as truth are condemned by God?
And you expect us to actually believe that this is in the Quran only for historical note, and not as exemplary motivation?
As a lesson?
For general application as doctrinal policy?
Your Muslim "God" has a nasty streak.
You might want to have your Muslim "scholars" make that clear.
They do not.
What is so horrible about this verse?
Are you serious?
It is explicit intolerance of other views.
Islam means Islam.
To Muslims it may mean "submission".
Peoples of other faiths already had their "submissions".
Mohammad-come-lately thinks he can override all their beliefs?
This is the fundamental problem with Islam.
You like to invoke Jesus.
Show us all where he said such a thing (repeatedly).
Liar.
3:118 O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom.
Liar
5:51 O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another 72 and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide such evildoers. 73
9:14 Fight against them! God will chastise them by your hands, and will bring disgrace upon them, and will succour you against them; and He will soothe the bosoms of those who believe,
Okay, so its "Pagans" he is talking about.
And that makes it better?
and then.....
9:28 O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
9:30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
You "deliberatley" try to whitewash the contempt that is rife in Islam.
Here's your "context":
9:28 O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
9:30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
Again, explicit contempt.
Oh, I dunno, maybe that is encourages fighting against those who do not believe what Muslims believe, and condemns them to hell.
That you see nothing wrong with this explicit hatred and contempt is truly indicitive of why Islam cannot co-exist in this world and fights all other religions, everywhere across this planet.
Where is the problem???????????????
Okay, I am starting to see the pattern.
Fighting "unbelievers" is as fine with you now as it was with Mohammad 1,400 years ago.
What Islam is doing to PakistanNeil Boss You're not a yank, and you hate everyone, not just Muslims, as demonstrated below with your previous comments in usenet: Nelly's views on Negroes: "The black african americans bought AIDS into...
Thanks for making it clear that Islam has made people into intolerant psychopaths generationally subsequently.
Your "we" is YOUR we.
Not that of non-Muslims.
That you cannot see the Fascism in this condemns you as one.
Prejudice?
Earthly reason?
So anyone who does not believe as you do is inherently wrong?
Here folks is the Supremacism of Islam.
Part and parcel of the Fascism that it is.
Utter contempt for non-Muslims.
I am no Christian, but I'd like to see you quote Jesus Christ saying such things.
Yeah, I get it.
Unbelievers=bad Unbelievers=to be punished
It's clear, Fascist.
No, it means those who have been shown the Quran, prosletyzed with it, and not been convinced.
You know this as well as I do, that failing da'wah follows jihad.
Again, your context proves the Fascist militaristic intolerance and imperialism of Islam.
How you cannot see it when you quote in support of it mind-boggling.
I do not give a damn who else said such things.
It's wrong, and multiple wrongs do not make it right.
Why not condemn it for the contempt that it is?
I resist Allah.
Should I be crumbled to dust?
3-4 of Humanity resist allah.
Should they all the cumbled to dust?
Its time to drop the bullpoo, man.
66:9 O PROPHET! Strive hard against the deniers of the truth and the hypocrites, and be adamant with them. 20 And if they do not repent, their goal shall be hell - and how vile a journey's end!
Same theme, different verse.
Those who refuse to convert to Islam are inferior, condemned by the Muslim God, and subject to the retribution of his followers.
Same Islamic militarized Fascism.
You Muslims ought to follow these verses instead of just throwing them up as meager examples in the face or criticism.
Muslims planting and killing people all over the planet who have not pushed them from their homes, but conversely welcomed them into their countries.