regn.pickford
Can you say that again, in English?
It is a FACT, not a belief, that we have not been attacked on our soil to date.
Why do people like you claim we shouldn't value facts, or the plain truth?
You admit it is a fact when you state your belief "WHEN attacks start.."
Your suggestion is a belief about what MIGHT happen IN the FUTURE. It admits that there have been no attacks to date.
You then pretend this is PROOF justifying draconian action that is quite unrelated to the nature of the problem! B^p
Insane!
It is because your language is so inaccurate, your beliefs and factual knowledge so inverted, that your ideas are so confused.
The planning and organising you know nothing about will be a part of the attacks which haven't happened but might?
I'm sure fridge magnets and making unaccompanied baggage a criminal offence will deter terrorism {snort}
Mumbai and New Orleans 4002Bling Billions of barrels of oil for the UK! Yum. - Funny that... How come your claim does not correlate with the price of petrol in the UK? From what I hear, its a 'quid a...
Just like invading TexIraq and dissolutioning non-person Muslims has made us all safer.
You have mispelt 'spaced'.
Wow, that's even more vague than the 'evidence for WMD's which Colin Powell now describes as his most shameful moment and a blot on his career.
It's pretty simple for rational thinkers.. put mammoth efforts into intelligence gathering (it's essential to develop close working relationships with Muslims, like we have with Indonesia, to be successful in this) and don't collectivly blame and punish the innocent which will simply breed resentment and more terror.
We have had decades of multicultural tolerance, and no violence.
Clearly it is not the threat. Something more recent is.
Are you really too stupid to know what it is?
How would the proposed destruction of our rights have prevented 11th September or the London plantings?
You are aware, aren't you, that the Howard government let Wille Brigette go without even questioning him?
More powers needed? pfffft they haven't even used the ones THEY'VE ALREADY GOT!
Wake up and smell the bullpoo, attempts by the State to buttert power over the individual are NOT NEW, and the argument is ALWAYS the same, that they need it to ensure 'security of the realm';
"The document's radical, but we mustn't be afraid of that, the proposals are just. History shows us that there have been many struggles between the honest men of England and those that tyrannized them.
All good laws come as innovation and as constraints upon the power of the King and Lords."
- Colonal Thomas Rainsborough Council of the Army, Putney Church, 1647
Mumbai and New Orleans 4004Let's not engage is false patriotism. In this case we sucked big time. Here is how the tiny and poor Cuba handeld a true category 5 hurricane (Katrina was only category-4 when she struck...
Why don't people know their history anymore...?
Am I the only liberal left?
You haven't shown that you need them now.
IRA and Sri Lankan plantings had been going on for decades, even the Americans used car plantings to destabilize the South vietnamese Diem government and replace it with their own stooges.
So did we need destruction of OUR rights and freedoms to prevent them attacking us?
How exactly would that protect us.. start by explaining how the proposed measures would have prevented Sept 11 or London.
The Indonesians, by following good investigative process, working closely with us and sharing intelligence, have successfully caught and prosecuted those responsible for criminal acts. The USSA by hysterically tearing their own Bill of rights, and tearing up everone elses rights at the same time, have failed utterly to even capture Bin Laden and increased, not decreased the threat of terror.
Why should we let the liars make us even less safe than they have done already?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!
Where were you, YEARS ago, when I pointed out that the persons who attacked the USSA did not arrive as boat refugees, but flew in wearing neat casual clothes,
JUST LIKE THE 30,000+ VISA ILLEGALS IN AUSTRALIA, MANY FROM THE UK, HOME OF THE LONDON plantERS, ABOUT WHICH HOWARD REFUSED To DO ANYTHING!
So, while a Billion dollars has been squandered on political stunts placing children in razor wire Gulags, tens of thousands of visa illegals from a country charbouring person planters were blithly ignored by a government whose security policy is not based on rational risk analysis, but on political interests.
Mumbai and New Orleans 4001Bling Yes, British people are very generous and always dig deep to help Indians when they have a disaster. E.g., the British built a clinic at Bhopal, the British sent 350 million pounds...
and not just about petrol, and the GST;
