I wouldn't say it's inherent to the race, but the particular batch of Lebanese we seem to have living in the Lakemba and surrounding areas seem to be grossly over-represented by criminal elements and hate-filled bigoted scumbags.
My theory (right or wrong) is that it is due to the refugee highway having none of the quality checks and controls that the normal migration path has, most of those people and-or their parents would never have gotten in through legitimate immigration and this problem wouldn't exist. As for playing it down, those that say it's not due to the race I would agree with, those that say it isn't there at all are fools.
It sure as f*** is there, the same as it is with our Aboriginal population in a lot of cities (such as Perth) and towns, a mbuttive over-representation on the "evil" side. And that's not racist, it's just blatantly honest common sense and basic skills of observation. It would be racist to automatically buttume that all Aboriginals (or Lebanese) are crims and never give them a chance, that just ain't the way it is even if statistically (and realistically) it's much more likely, but it would be sensible to be cautious in the initial stages, when making sure of someone you've just met, because that's just the way things are, pretty or not.
As for refugees, I work with one from Bosnia, and he is top-notch, but he is also highly send and of very good character, so I'm sure he would've made it in on his own merits through the standard process of immigration as well, and he loves this country just the way it is. It's the ones that come in with nothing, offering nothing except a lot of hatred and cultural baggage that I have a problem with, and due to the sort of environment it takes to create refugees in the first place, I think that the valuable "good" refugees are probably the exception rather than the norm.
And of good character, need that as well, all three of these need to be checked as far as possible to ensure new comers are going to improve the country rather than drag it down. And f*** oath we should question a system that is not doing this, countries are very fragile things, and if we don't make sure we're only getting in "good" people we'll end up f***ing it up, and there's no turning around from that, when it's too late it's too late.
I'm all for immigration, I'm one of those people that reckon it enriches our culture with the good but not the bad from other cultures, but we as a society get to pick and choose what we'll adopt from other people. And I'm also all for Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Black, Asian, White whatever the f*** coming here. I'm not a bigoted arsehole like a lot of those Lakemba scumbags or some of the posters around here, but the quality control needs to be stringent, and as far as I can tell it is through the legitimate channels. Friends of mine who have moved here from elsewhere have really battled to do so and had to do a lot to prove their worth, but they did it because they love our country and our lifestyle and want to be part of it, and that's how it should be, there shouldn't be a back door like the refugee highway for scumbags to take advantage of, and as a result of them flooding in that back door making it even harder for legitimate immigrants to get in, and in many cases giving them an undeserved bad name before they even get here.
You'll get in trouble with the greenleft types for saying "mostly" undesirable, but I tend to agree with you. I think that we should be a lot less generous in this respect, as soon as the problems are over in their countries they go home. Simple as that. To be fair allow them to apply for immigration under the exact same rules as anyone else is subjected to if they want to become part of our country, but failing that back home they go as soon as any legitimate grounds for refugee status cease to exist. No more of this you're in you're in type bullpoo, unfortunately I don't think we're likely to see that happen, and while they're f***ing everything up the not so bright ones out there are going to continue seeing only what they want to see and blaming religions or races rather than the method of entry.
I'd say our culture is based more on the British culture of the time than on anything that could be defined as "Christian" culture, the Spanish and French are Christian as well, but the cultures of the countries they left behind are entirely different to the cultures of the countries the Poms left behind, and even then I think we've managed to become a strong and unique culture of our own in a very short period of time relatively speaking..
There's a Muslim school over East where there were big problems exactly because the non-Wahabist majority got sick and tired of the Wahabi minority trying to take over the school, and they didn't take it. Even if it is 100 years over-due I think we're finally seeing a big change coming in the Islamic religion, and I think it's going to happen quickly, ever since Malaysia got rid of the mad doc as leader they've been heading towards what they call Islam Hadhari at full barrel, which is an ideal that drives Muslims towards excellence in intellect and business rather than fanaticism, and also preaches tolerance and acceptance, and this is coming from the government down.
In Indonesia something very similar is happening, but rather than being driven by the government the youth arms of the larger Muslim bodies have come together and agreed upon a very similar ideology, which in reverse of Malaysia they are attempting to bring in from the ground up. Change the young and a generation later the entire system has changed. Now that so many Muslim nations are slowly but surely becoming "haves" as opposed to "have nots" they are also changing their ways, and I sort of think that's what changed the Christian world so many years earlier. Comfort, communication and education tends to kill extremism and fanaticism for the most part, and in the cases of Malaysia and Indonesia, the most populous Muslim area of the world, these changes are coming at a quicker and quicker pace.
I agree with you totally, if you want to live in Australia, come and become part of our society and our culture, don't expect to change us. By all means keep your religion and the culture of your homeland, it will obviously always be part of you along with your new Australian cultural idenbreasty, anything we like and is good for our culture we'll quickly jump on and adopt ourselves, but don't expect us to change our ways to accommodate you any more than your former country would if we moved there. If you don't like the way things are here, well then why the f*** did you move here in the first place? Most immigrants, including Muslims, are more than happy to come here and become part of our society, it's why they move here!
More a case of we don't want the sort of people that want to change us moving here, don't like the place then stay where you are, love the place and the way we are, then you're welcome to join us.
Agreed.
Why not??? How is it hurting anyone any more than those mad Christian mob (dunno what they're called) that wear those tea-towels on their heads of their women? But if you want a job where a uniform is mandatory such as the police, if you're not willing to wear the correct uniform then find something else to do. That ruling that allowed that woman to be a police officer over in the PC East whilst still wearing the head-garb was bullpoo, and means I should be able to wear a balaclava to work if I want to. That is political correctness gone too far.
Agreed, and something that may surprise you is that Australia's larger Islamic bodies have also called on the government to stop permitting these loons to enter the country, they made the point it is hard to preach tolerance, peace and acceptance when the government keeps letting these poo-heels come in and preach the exact opposite.
