School parents beware 3837

A blanket clbuttroom environment CAN work, and the instruction has to be tailored for those children in the same way that other teaching is tailored for groups. It is never ideal but better than nothing.

True, but a lot of them can't or won't do what's required in this.

I can see why you thought that, but I did not know the facts concerning this case apart from conflicting observations about it in this group. I didn't want to comment on it specifically for that reason, not because I have any problems with discussing it per se.

I understand your point. I can see the potential for problems for the teacher in explaining her personal situation, but if she thought the children were misinformed about something that could escalate, she may have made the decision to talk about it for those reasons. (I say 'if' and 'may' because I don't know just what happened.) Seems to me in my slight understanding of this case, that if she ignored it or if she explored it, either way she was on a hiding to nothing, and that appears to be exactly what happened.

My personal opinion, FWIW, is that Mardi Gras is pretty much an adult event, and it would be better if kids were out of it either as participants or spectators. But they aren't and given the money Sydney makes from Mardi Gras no-one in authority is going to upset the applecart. As a spectacle for adults it is colourful, brash, loud, creative, funny and pretty harmless, and if I lived in Sydney I wouldn't mind being a spectator, just as thousands of heteroloveuals in Sydney and elsewhere clearly like to be. (And if we had a parade of strippers who were equally witty and creative, I'd happily be a spectator there too.)

It's simple - you're offended by it and I'm not. And I suspect that the majority of people are not offended by it. The ones that are usually have the good sense simply to ignore it - because the more they shout and scream about it, the more raucous and confronting the reaction in the parade will be.

I think you are not being reasonable here. Parents who are stable and loving would hardly be likely to take their children to places such as that, which are designed as 'adult' entertainment. BUT if the children did witness these things for whatever reason, if they were in that sort of relationship, it would be far less likely to cause them psychological damage if they went home to security than if the reverse were the case. I would make the same comment about depictions of violence.

While I think your deliberate choice of terminology above marks you out as a bigot, I would certainly feel uncomfortable trying to explain to my young stepson some of the things that you say are being depicted - which is why I said above that Mardi Gras is to me a place for adults who have enough maturity to cope with it and enough generosity of spirit not to be offended by it.

We get back to that word 'normal' again. I would have thought that their message was that children can grow up well-adjusted in such a relationship. I think they can. You don't. I think kids can be screwed up just as effectively by heteroloveual parents or guardians as homoloveual ones - it's not the loveuality that's the issue; it's the way the child is raised.

OK. If you're not saying that, then I withdraw it. But are you then agreeing with me that it is possible for homoloveual parents to raise children effectively?

I have no issues with children being involved in a gay and lesbian parade that is making the statement that everyone has a right to their own lifestyle. If you are referring specifically to the sort of parade the Sydney Mardi Gras is, I have reservations about children's participation, because quite a bit of it depicts loveuality and eroticism that I doubt children understand and which may confuse them.

Having said that, and given the history of the Mardi Gras and its relationship to gays gaining acceptance as people with the same human rights as anyone else, the parade as a whole, in my opinion, is pretty harmless. You will not agree. So be it. As an adult, I am not offended by it.

I don't see the connection. Child molestation is as rampant amongst the heteroloveual community as it is among the gay one - you are simply showing your prejudices.

That's a non sequitur.

Maybe if you asked them you would be surprised at what they want for their children. My experience is that they simply want children to be free to make their choices.

This is another non sequitur. You make the incorrect parallel between something that is biological and something that is entirely socially instilled. Again, your prejudices are showing. You actually need to find out more about this subject if you are going to debate it, because you have some very wrong information in your head and it affects your judgment sorely.

Rifty

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