On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:27:58 -0800, Eunometic
all parties agree on the previous comment.
previous comment, seems to reflect what happened in france.
No, a hundred is considered pretty much normal, most gangs will burn their cars, so that police can get anything from the car they've stolen.
What you say about france is still true according. I don't know much about other countries except the unrest was pretty much nothing compare to what happened in france.
don't know, but seems odd, i've never heard of this..
no-go areas for the police, yes, there have been areas where the police was not really much welcomed,and could easily lead to unrest. But left wing, funded buttociations, more teachers, a local police and mediators, all of those didn't get any more fund since 2 years, and election of the righ wing french government (chirac). Since the unrest, prime minister Dominique de Villepin put back those left-wing measures.
looks like bullpoo, as far as i know.. From a practical point of view, it looks much the opposite has plenty of moque project, never started, and most muslims usually have no other choice than to pray in industrial buildings.
still Bullpoo, from my point of view.
They didn't do everything they can, at least in france, to promote their culture, they just left them gather in some areas, and it ended up with the ghettos we've seen. But it may have promoted that way the far right wing, as you say after.
Looks curious for me, never happened in france, as far as i know.
to stop gettoisation and reinvest no-go areas, where police should stand.
At least now, because of those young we've learned the truth about those 2 who died in the electrical power substation. The police knew they were there, and the police was chasing them. They just said the opposite before the unrest. But investigation brought on light prooves that they lied.
headscarf issues in school etc.. but well overall situation is not that bad. I mean you could walk in suburbs etc.. nothing will happen to you. It's not at all unsafe, but some hidden groups and gang may bother those people in the suburbs for sure, and deserve some police investigation, to put a stop in their traffic. Especially, you should keep in mind, that borders of europe have ended, with netherland, belgium, and many countries and it has leaded to a lot more traffic than before, as laws and regulations are not the same.
There is some people taking this unrest as an opportunity to talk a bit more loudly. They are free to talk but most of them, they tend to be a very very good source of information about terrorism and the like. Some of them brought to justice from time to time.
"quite literally a war".. 2 rests and 2 injured in 17 days, and you call that a war.. You overreact. What about 68 then.. or Los Angeles..
1 billions euros about, but insurance are pretty much prepared for such kind of exceptionnal event each year, and they have a budget of several billions euros.
yes, plenty blame him for this. But your rhetoric is no better, as you call a war, where there is no real weapons and no dead people. Unrest is really much appropriate.
Lol :) Jacques Chirac would be free of charge, if he would have lived in the US. In france he face justice because he got money for his party from the industry, which is not allowed.Anyone running for election will be refunded by government to prevent bribering, as long as he can get 5% votes. This law has been voted 10 or 15 years ago, and Chirac may have broke this law some 10 or 15 years ago.
Overreaction and stupidity, doing so you promote Bush and ben laden values, instead of playing with values of the republic and our democracies. LAW and JUSTICE...
Bush because of guantanamo, because of iraq war for no reason. Ben laden because of WTC, madrid, london, iraq, and all the burden of hate.