Time to face the ugly facts 4482

Re: INDONESIAN invasion of Australia in 2010 at

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The day of armed confrontation between uniformed armies using tanks planes and ships is over, as is the practice of adhering faithfully to the articles of war, no matter the cost.

The Gulf war and the Iraq war proved just that - one side dominated the battlefield, the other abandoned their positions and their equipment and ran away in their underpants. The battle of opposing mbutted armies was over in days.

Now we have a battle of culture, religion and ideology where tanks aircraft and ships are still used by one side while the other uses very simple tactics and shows no mercy to friend or foe

The two differing approaches will ensure a long drawn out and costly conflict. The US has the capacity to end it in days and to ensure that it never happens again but is, in the present climate, constrained.

Yes, the persons are very sick mbutt liquidateers, and in that vein the Russians have admitted misplacing over 100 nuclear devices. Where and how do you think the persons might use one if they manage to acquire one. Conventional means of delivery won't be used.

It will happen - how do you think the US or the targeted nation might react? We have seen what 911 triggered, so it shouldn't be that difficult to comprehend the response to a nuclear attack on a major city.

Iran and its quest for Nuclear power may ultimately prove the catalyst for its own annihilation, a conflict that will spill over into Iraq providing a solution for that problem once and for all.

There will always be small skirmishes where conventional armies and their equipment will play a part, but when push eventually comes to shove between two opposing cultural ideologies and the fight is to the finish, survival of the fittest, there will be no rules.

Iran and North Korea have us entering a new and extremely dangerous era where any physical provocation by either of them will start the broom sweeping, and it won't stop until all the dirt and filth has been swept away.

Diplomacy can be a powerful and effective tool, but only when both sides are willing to use it.

Just food for thought.

PS. There are strategies and there are tactics - I shouldn't have to point out the difference to you.

You say:

We do not know where the next liquidate will happen or where the next traffic accident will kill someone. If we did we may have a chance of stopping it

Correct, however we take every step possible to reduce the possibility of an accident occuring and we reduce or remove the altercation and violent situations that might lead to liquidate.

For example we don't let two cars travelling in opposite directions, use the same lane because we know what would happen.

Why should we allow two opposing ideologies to share our streets when history and recent events have shown us exactly what will happen?

Just recently Governments without a clue discriminated against all responsible P-platers because of the action of a few irresponsible drivers in that category.

Recently Soccer Australia gave notice to two teams warning that if they couldn't control their violent spectators they would in future play in isolation without spectators or even face an outright ban.

You mention the number of possible persons in Australia is 60. Well it only takes one to commit an atrocity.

I find it interesting that you now concede that we actually do have persons in our midst when only a few months back you were repeating over and over again - where are the persons? Who are they? Show me the proof?