Visa category to apply while an application for permanent migration is in progres Sender: Gill

Now you are just being silly and contradicting yourself, chum, which is OK with me.

Point One: Whatever anyone might think of the Convention, your statement is a non-sequitur. It has been adopted as Law by the Governments of both Australia and of Great Britain, and neither Government is likely to worry about your or my opinions about diseases or cures, I suggest.

Point Two: Why does an airline have to be involved? How else are the children going to get to Australia by any other quick method of travel? According to your earlier post, Tracey would need to pay a wad of lolly to a Migration Agent to hang about at Heathrow just in case an airline such as Malaysian might turn out to have the remotest interest in his opinions. (Which strikes me as an inherently unlikely notion, but it was your own suggestion, not mine, chum!)

According to you on another thread a few days ago, some people turned up at an airport to check themselves in for a flight bound for Australia, relying on one-way tickets. According to you, the airline refused to allow them to board and the whole thing finished up in Court - several months later, no doubt. Here speaks a man with no experience of long- haul flying with young children, because whilst the adults brawl at the check-in followed by the Court, the children will howl "McBurger" and will raise Cain unless it is provided, in my own experience of travelling with ankle-biting rug-rats!

Have you ever tried yourself to tell Airline Management, "Today is Wednesday, you've taken my shekel for your 11am flight on Sunday and I want it in writing from you lot between now and 7am on Sunday that you do not have a problem with my one way ticket."? BA would say, "Forsooth!" and Quantas would say, "Strewth!" Both would ignore your demand, however.

Point Three: Apparently at 2am in Adelaide, there will be plenty of Senior DIMIA Officials just ready and waiting to give themselves a crash course in the workings of the Hague Convention, it now appears. For safety's sake, however, it appears that "Professional Advice" should be hanging about on the concourse. This Expert who is no longer required at Heathrow (according to you) now needs to beam up at Adelaide Arrivals instead, it would seem. What use will he be, since he won't be allowed to go airside?

This sort of nonsense is precisely why I will never permit my mother to accept any sort of "advice" that does not carry my personal (as her lawyer) endorsement. å£35 quid produces the thing that convinces every time - the Gold Nugget Letter From The Australian Government. My mother has no need of suggestions that potentially involve trying to go to the village green via the moon because the Best solution is invariably the one marked Easy, in my long experience of buttisting other people with their legal problems.

Try being constructive instead of trying to score cheap points for your own ego, I suggest. Play the ball, not your opponent, on pain of discovering that your opponent might boot you in Lord Kelvin's Testimonials. (Ask Wikipedia about adjusting the marine magnetic compbutt: then you will know what the spheroids known as LKTs are!)

G'day, mate.

Gill

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