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That's not real hot. The coffee-in-the-lap lawsuit was about coffee coming out the window at 180.
Recommendations are all over the place from 3-6 minutes. You have to find what suits YOUR palate, not anyone else's. BTW, the Bodum Santos uses a nylon filter to keep the grounds from being drawn back into the pot. How they stack up to a gold filter, I do not know. But that is what comes with it and I'm unaware of a gold replacement.
Perhaps the ATK website can tell us . . . . I just searched the site for "coffee" and it brings up nothing. Was it ATK or one of the FoodTV programs?
Coffee makerbrewer 7753I'm wondering if this isn't a happenstance purchase. I searched on Amazon a coffee maker that I thought was a pretty good idea, it had over 200 reviews, most of them pretty darned bad...
I was under the impression that B&D was getting out of the kitchen appliance business and going back to tools. If that is so, it may explain what is on the site (stuff that still hasn't sold). The are off my radar screen. I'll look in a second or so . . . The only coffee brewers I saw just now were drip-filter units. No vacuum units. spend much time there, but a search on "vacuum" only brings up food storage.
Store bought (thinking the program was talking about the local supermarkets), the beans have been sitting around. The pre-ground stuff starts going bad as soon as the vacuum pack is broken. Whole beans don't degrade as fast - less surface area. If the beans are in those self-service bins, they might be equal to the whole beans in the vacuum packs at best, worse if they haven't sold well and have been sitting. I would like to catch that program and see it, but it was well discussed on alt.coffee if it was the FoodTV. You can google that group to find the thread.
Comparing store bought to *$ is comparing apples to oranges. They are both coffee, but there is a vast difference in the roasting philosophy and in the people who drink it. Most of the US has been on a diluted coffee standard that got set back during one of the World Wars when coffee wasn't readily available and people watered it down or extended it with chicory.
I suggest that you come on over to alt.coffee and talk to some real experts as well as visit www.coffeegeek.com (it is up and down due to server problems). I'll go through my bookmarks and look for anything specific to vacuum.
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