On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Puester
Go, Gloria! No flameproof suit needed here.
You're right. It seems that over the years educators in high places have not had enough to do to to fill their time. So, they decided to complicate English grammar with doctoral-level words and phrases that are confusing and more difficult instead of focusing on the simple rules that make for understanding.
The "cheat sheet" rule always was,"just drop the other name (ex. Jimmy) and the "and" and complete the sentence.
Give the book to Jimmy and .
You (subject implied) give the book to me.
You give the book to Jimmy and me.
Here,"me" is the object of a preposition. "Me" is always used as the object of a preposition.
It is a secret BETWEEN Jimmy and me. Tie the ribbon AROUND Jimmy and me.
This is true, also, when a pronoun is used as a direct or indirect object.
You give Jimmy and me the books.
Give what? (the books) To whom? ( to me; to Jimmy = Jimmy and me)
Way OT: Phrases you Hate 938It makes perfect sense to me. When I was in school parents and teachers reminded us over and over: "Don't say 'Jimmy and me are going to the store!' Say, 'Jimmy and...
I heard a woman in a store say, "Whom do I give the money to?"
Way OT: Phrases you Hate 937Kathy Not by any stretch of the imagination! It's "She gave it to Jimmy and ME." The words Jimmy and me have to be...
I had to stifle the urge to giggle. That trampled on two rules. I guess she missed the clbutt about not ending a sentence in a preposition.
Elaine, too