Cocoa How have the mighty fallen OT. 718

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:42:43 +0100, "Mary Fisher"

That's normal, for such an invasive proceadure you get that "once".

You won't get another 1 hour session.

Why did they send you to Harrogate? It's 15 miles away. Rather a long way to crawl if you have a bad foot. :-(

Perhaps it's something to do with the fact that, believe it or not, "Leeds" has closed it's list for foot surgery. No doubt this is some subterfuge to do with waiting lists and targets. Our secretary who has been waiting to see a consultant for 6 months in connection with a hammer toe was told this week that it will probably be another 12 months before she can have her condition treated.

Leeds has a population of 715,404 and the biggest teaching hospital in Europe (and another hospital almost as big) . It is not acceptable to me that they cannot treat a hammer toe. YMMV.

Surprisingly my chiropodist tells me that the nearest specialist foot surgeon is at Pontefract General.

Wow ! Nice round figure that, what drug is it BTW. However, to put it into context that would pay for less than 50 minutes of a Radiologists time. I have the bills to prove it.

You surely are not trying to imply you had a major Gynae Op on the NHS on request and at your convenience.

Our (other) secretary had been on the waiting list for an hysterectomy for nearly 6 months when they offered her an appointment on the 22nd of December which she declined*. So they said she would go straight back to the bottom of the list.

*She declined it not merely because it was 2 days before Christmas but because her 96 year old mother had an appointment for a cataract operation at the same time also after a very long time on the waiting list, and she would be needed to look after her.

I can't say it would be honest to describe either of these these 2 operations as carried out "On request" or "At the patients convenience".

Is it? We pay for ours.

Hope you aren't one of those who goes to the NHS for mild analgesics. Ibuprofen, Paracetamol, Aspirin etc.

If a person can't work because of arthritis or hernia or somesuch and the NHS is talking aeons for treatment they'll get a pain in their pocket all right. If they get paid off for excessive time off sick, then the pain will persist a very long time after their treatment is completed.

There's also another different kind of pain in respect of the treatments you and other people could benefit from but have not been offered. Driving back from Aberdeen Royal Infirmary this week I heard on the car radio of yet another drug that can't be supplied on the NHS in England because NICE have not approved it. It was said that 50,000 people could lose their lives because "NICE" was not scheduled to begin evaluating it until half way through 2007.

That's NICE.

There is also the issue of very high level of infection. If you personally don't get it then you experience no pain, that is correct.

Also the issue of the delays during which patients conditions get worse, for which there is no real explanation other than to provide the doctors private patients needing private consultations (to jump the queue) and private operations.

Puzzling in the circumstances, but that's allright you can have some of ours.

Father in law aged 84 died of MRSA infection in a filthy dirty ward in Chancellor's wing at St. James's.

He was fitted with a prosthetic femur after a fall. The operation wound failed to heal because it had became infected with MRSA. They placed him in a ward where his bed could not be seen from the nurses workstation (in fact none of the 30+ beds in the wards could). The wing was newly built in 1972 and had been designed that way !!!

He fell out of bed to the floor 18 times in 2 1-2 hours one Sunday afternoon because the nurses couldn't see his bed from behind their desk. They apparently didn't have any alternative to simply allowing him to fall to the floor time after time after time whilst they sat at their desk around the corner. Do you call that "Nursing" ?

Later, they knew he was infected with MRSA but his side ward door was propped open and they kept the ward mop and bucket in the room with him, and kept on coming in for it.

The ward which was on the first floor ran along one side of a quadrangle which composed the flat roof of the floor below. The public had no access to this area but it was decorated with loads of used disposable urinal bottles, and used disposable hypodermic syringes. Most liikely explanation is that in the hours of darkness nursing staff threw them out of the opening top lights instead of disposing of them properly. The dirty bastards.

************************************************************************** Brother in law was flagged "Query Prostate Cancer" during treatment for heammorhoids but his GP filed the letter from the hospital without acting on it. This was revealed over 1 year later when a locum saw him for something else and actually read his notes. Despite the treatment for his cancer being delayed by over a year by a fault of the NHS he still had to go to the bottom of the waiting list which was said to be 5 months at that time. The consultant buttured him he'd "Try to push him up the list". However the actual outcome was no operation by 5 months, or even 5 1-2 months whereupon brother in law had to mount an acrimonious campaign of escalating complaints until he got his operation at the 7 month stage. Unfortunately the cancer had spread within his abdomen involving several lymph glands which had to be removed implying more radical surgery, further radiotherapy treatment, and a poorer life expectancy. He was 55 at the time.

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Nephew aged 17 got appendicitis but despite reporting for treatment as soon as the symptoms (pain) appeared his treatment (operation) was delayed 18 hours by which time the appendix had ruptured and peritonitis had set in. The result was at 17 he had a close call with rest, his abdominal wall had to be excoriated and he ended up with an absolutely humunguous scar, and suffering clinical depression because of his experience and was on anti depressants for over 6 months.

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Is this enough or do you want a report on the disgracefully filthy Pinderfields Hospital Wakefield. They had to change the law to abandon Crown Immunity after Pinderfields Hospital end 20 -odd patients with food contagioning.

ISTM You are flat earthing Mary.

DG