global knives 241that right Doesn't surprise me. Every tool has someone who finds it difficult to use. Good thing there are so many variations...
global knives Mailcopiesto: never 242I'd say so, except that I've met a few people who've seen other people doing the fancy waving things about to make clashing metal-on-metal noises...
Well Greg may be able to help with filling in the details.
As far as I've ever observed the apples go into Greg's Dad's cellar in October. There's a barrel of fermenting stuff in November. Bottles by January and drinking starts in March.
Googling I quickly find lots of recipes but to be honest starting with 4l of supermarket apple juice and instructions like "Bottle in plastic pop bottles with 1 rounded tsp sugar per 500ml & keep warm for a few days for the bottles to get fat with the secondary fermentation" do not in any way inspire me with confidence. In fact they bring to mind my putting my put in it by saying "Do you pickle with this?"
However I also find some promising stuff including
Another find was this:
Country Cider by Mrs. Gennery-Taylor "For the best cider, a mixture of different varieties of apples is best. Those usually chosen are non-keepers, small sour or windfall, with, if desired, a few crab-apples. An odd rotten apple in a large number is permissible, but otherwise they should be sound. Before the second world war, my historical searches tell me there were travelling cider presses in some districts, as many farms and cottages had a small orchard. This practice seems to have disappeared, though it may still exist in a few country areas. To get your apples pressed ideally, a cider factory is the thing, if you can persuade them to do it. Alternatively, a cider factory might sell you newly pressed apple juice. For those who cannot find a cider factory, you can buy a fruit press from your local specialist shop. The juice should be put into a wooden cask -- a 30 gallon calculations on the fact that a ton of apples makes approximately 150 gallons of cider, therefore a cwt. makes approximately 7.5 gallons. Any good size wooden or plastic cask is suitable but the larger the better as fermentation goes on longer in a greater quanbreasty of juice, thus producing a high alcohol content. The cask should stand in a cool place either on its side or end, Wherever the bung hole is uppermost. Never bung up the hole while fermentation is still going on; unless to bring the cask home, perhaps! After about forty eight hours the apple juice will start to ferment and white froth will bubble up through the bung hole. This will continue for about three weeks when fermentation has almost stopped, some juice should be siphoned out of the cask with a short length of sterile clear plastic pipe. The amount of juice removed should be sufficient to dissolve the required quanbreasty of sugar. Add 2 to 4 lb of sugar (depending on how sweet you want the cider) per gallon in the cask to the juice you have removed, and dissolved over heat. When quite dissolved, allow to cool, then return to the cask. Owing to the addition of the sugar all the sweetened juice will not go back in at once. During fermentation, which will go on for about two weeks, the quanbreasty of liquid in the cask reduces so that you can add the surplus gradually (as space permits). When fermentation has nearly finished, if all the 'juice and sugar mixture' is not in the cask, siphon out enough juice to allow this to go in. Bottle what you take out and use to keep the cask full while the cider is maturing -- as the quanbreasty reduces during this process. Developing airspace in the cask will otherwise allow bacilli to breed and turn the cider acid. When the juice has completely ceased to 'bubble up' bung the cask up tightly with either cork or wood, and leave for eight months. Cider is usually made in October - November, and should be left as long as possible -- up to two years before opening it, but at least until the cuckoo sings the following year. Then the cask may be tapped, or the cider bottled down with care. Innocent to taste but powerful -- up to 15% alcohol can be achieved."
Matthew