Ere Pumparse ... 539
loquated before with: Are you being a sighted literalist? ...and yet the bible states that God operated under the influence of progressive time. That people need to chill out...
You obviously do not live in the USA. Try conversing with a Southern Baptist some time. Quite a few of them are blind literalists.
Sadly there are glaring contradictions in the book of Genesis itself regarding such things as whether animals or humans came first ;).
Absolutely. Women definitely get the shaft in the bible ;).
Do you mean literal creationism (not likely considering your text above), scientific creationism (Darwin obliquely contradicts it and evolutionary theory quite clearly contradicts it.)
Herein lies the problem, you can't have a discussion about religion when it means different things to virtually anyone. You seem to accept spiritualism and religion in the context of the modern world and humanity, many MANY other people do not.
Ere Pumparse ... 538
They read the Bible in braille you mean? Time came first. And to discuss the sequence in which the created universe was put together after that...
Like all things which, imho, ultimately stem from man, it is often well-meaning and yet flawed in that it has grown into something rather dangerous.
Imagine a world of mosques, churches, and synagogues, but no bishops, mullahs, metropolitans, or rabbinical collectives. In such a world, religion would be much more likely to bring happiness to the world. Sadly, we live in a world of religious hierarchies, including Judaism (although it operates differnetly than other religions) and hierarchies tend to grow to protect themselves at the expense of what we ethnocentrically label the Judeo-Christian ethic.
God may or may not exist, but churches-mosques-et al. certainly seemed to have caused a lot of rest and suffering.
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