"Pope Pompous XVIII"
And one you use or abandon to suit your argument.
Typical and faintly pathetic evasion tactics by Pope. Why don't you try debating this like a man. Persuade me that you're right.
Everything about the shroud is at odds with the scriptures you hold so sacrosanct.
Answer these points for me:
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As regarding Early Christian artist's portrayals of Christ, AT FIRST he was shown with closely cropped hair, that is to say, his hair did NOT reach down to his shoulders, and he was without moustache or beard. Centuries later, he appears, still without beard or moustache, but NOW his hair is no longer closely cropped, it is shoulder length. Finally, the LAST STAGE of Christian representations of Christ, show him with moustache, beard and shoulder-length hair. The Turin Shroud portrays Christ with all the features appearing in the LAST STAGES of Christian representations of Christ ! If the shroud was truely genuine it should have shown Christ as he FIRST APPEARED in Christian art, with hair closely cropped and not shoulder-length, and no moustache or beard. Apparently the FORGER of the Turin Shroud was UNAWARE that the earliest Christian art did not so portray Christ.
Hey pumparse ... 651As is my entitlement. It's you that has the monopoly on reason in this debate, remember? I can cite whatever irrational and fantastic sources I like, for I am defending a superstition and an anachronism...
And this:
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12 months from todayPara sempre Azul Sorry to keep on but we must first initiate the cure. "ENGLAND MANAGER SYNDROME" A distinct mistrust of flair and of late making decisions to leave players...
Have the shroud investigators looked at the Scriptures? John 20:6-7 tells us that when Peter went into Jesus' tomb he found that the cloth about Jesus' head was not lying with the linen clothes but was wrapped up in a place by itself. Therefore Jesus' burial cloth was at least two pieces, not one like the shroud. In all the articles and TV programs I've seen on the shroud, I've never heard these verses quoted."
And this:
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The bas-relief carving of Jesus calling forth Lazarus shows the latter bound in cloths with a separate napkin covering the head and face. A mural painting on the wall of a 14th century Greek Orthodox church shows Christ's empty burial shroud still tightly bound with a SEPARATE napkin or head cloth nearby. These Christian art forms CONTRADICT the Shroud of Turin.
And this:
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John 20:6-8 RSV
"Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb; he saw the LINEN CLOTHS LYING, AND THE NAPKIN WHICH HAD BEEN ON HIS HEAD, NOT LYING WITH THE LINEN CLOTHS but rolled up in a place by itself."
PollenThen just answer the question: how did the image of what forensic pathologists have determined to be a crucified Jewish male in a state of rigor...
Hmm?
A. Dieu.
