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I never said that you f***ing nonce. I never said that Keane is the only player ever to have set out (remainder of your stupid crap.) I said that YOU are presuming to tell everyone else that you KNOW that's what other players have done. Retard. I may not be a genius but I'm the f***ing lighthouse of Alexandria next to you m8.

Somebody buy Norman a dictionary. "Dead certainty." Your grasp of the English language is extraordinary in the literal sense. LOL.

Woah, what's anti-United about this? This is anti-Keane. He's just as big a piece of poo walking the streets of Cork as he is walking the grounds of Old Trafford.

PMSL. I was living in Italy attending Serie A matches when you were still fondling boys in your back alley. You've probably barely seen a match other than the first division-premiership. You probably can't even play proper footie. Maybe I can send you a color photocopy of my match ticket from Istanbul so that you can have a memento from a really spectacular football match. LOL.

Why would I claim that? I never claimed that before, I would never claim something so f'ing stupid. YOU on the other hand are stupid enough to butter that you KNOW for a DEAD CERTAINTY which incidents by particular players were premeditated attacks. Probably because God told you, right?

This is the poo you keep confusing. YOU are the idiot butterting that you "know" things for a "dead certainty". I have quite clearly tried to point out to you that you obviously don't know what "know" and "certainty" mean, ergo, I'm certainly not claiming to know about the motivations of footballers who do not print their motivations in books. Catching on now?

Please, enlighten us. You apparently KNOW for a DEAD CERTAINTY of a tackle where Steven Gerrard has gone into a game thinking "great, I owe..." Give us an example. Tell us the game, the player, the foul, and how you KNOW this is true. You need to become friends with the word 'likely' or 'probable.' It will save you much embarrbuttment.

That you're a f'ing hypocrite, that's the point. If you're confused, slow down and re-read.

Did you f'ing read the pbuttage? NOBODY but a delusional manc could beleive he had any regrets over the incident at all. Are you therefore willing to contend that Keane was showing some sort of remorse? That's what you seem to be suggesting. Please state your view on the pbuttage for the sake of clarity. Do you think Keane was showing any regret or remorse over the Haaland incident in his book.

LOL, what a quality jibe, such a riposte. A wordsmith indeed you are sir. PMSL. Yeah, we have books. Shall I bash around all of the stereotypes that apply to your little patch of God's green earth? Lol...

Sure, you're not defending Keane, that's why you've brought it up twice in a thread where you're quite clearly defending Keane from all the anti-united rhetoric... Lol.

Sure, and seeing how unless you've played in Division two in England I've likely played higher quality football than you have, I guess that means you need to learn a little more about it.

Your stupidity is astounding. I don't even think Keane has really done anything like this but once. Sure, Keane may have given an opposing player a bit of payback during a match, but longer than the next match against that player? Highly doubtful. Do I know any players I suspect of being as f***ed up as Keane about something like this? Nope. Keane takes the cake. Does that mean there aren't any? Nope. Hell, Joey Barton appears to be a total f***wit as well, but who knows. The whole point about this is that your boy Keane admits to being a sociopathic nutball and you want to make it sound like "well, so is every other hard man in football and I KNOW it."

I bet you'll say next post that you're not defending what he did, right? You're simply talking in the abstract, right? LOL.

FFS dumbbutt, I'm not the one saying I KNOW. I'm saying any unbiased footballer would believe that choice later, PV would take it back. He's not a vicious sociopathic cunt (at least he doesn't appear to be except to you...) I don't have a problem at all with you presuming things, I do have a problem with you presuming things and saying that you actually KNOW these things for a DEAD CERTAINTY.

Indeed. You're still confused about presumption, eh?

Ibidem.

Which side do you believe you're standing on? LOL.

For fact? A confession. Otherwise you'd need to know the player personally. For a subjective opinion? Know the history of the players. Luckily Keane provides us with fact.

In my opinion or in indisputable fact?

Nobody said they get everything right, but they f***ing got that right. Before that I honestly, and a bit naively, didn't think RVN was a right cunt, but I know better know. That was dirty as hell. FFS, if Liverpool fans acted like you we'd be explaining how Diouf wasn't such a bad sort and that everybody spits at everybody else... Et cetera. But we don't and we didn't. He got more poo in our ng than in any other. People wanted him out and gone for doing that.

Yeah, you can read minds and intent from your armchair.

Sloppy? Somehow, that pea rattling around in your skull has given you the impression that I said (somewhere) that Roy Keane is the only player ever to have inflicted a pre-medicated kick on an opponent. Unfortunately for you, what actually happened is that I've quite simply eviscerated you on every time you've said "I KNOW" and "DEAD CERTAINTY" about things you cannot possibly know. Keep telling yourself that crap if it makes you feel better.

Oh, the irony... You really have a hard time with simple boolean logic, don't you? You seem to be confused into thinking that I said you can't make presumptions when what I was remonstrating you for (besides foolhardy stupidity) was making presumptions and then claiming to KNOW these things for DEAD CERTAINTY. Hopefully you managed to parse that sentence.

This is what marks you out as a Keane apologist. You attempt to equate the things he did with everyone else's antics. First, that many many other players participate in pre-meditated attacks on other players in football matches. Second, you try to wrap it up with "The length of premeditation is not relevant." LOL. You're right Norman. Waiting 3 years to crush someone in a football tackle is no worse than being fouled by a player and immediately rashly two footing him. Yeah, it's EXACTLY the same. PMSL.

I'd say you're a liar but I think it's actually stupidity that makes you put words in other people's mouths. I would really appreciate if you could provide me with a quote where I stated that Roy Keane is the only payer to ever have done something like that." It doesn't literally have to say that, but it has to be a quote from me that makes it clear that I am saying that.

Thanks,

WTH :)

-- "I will always remain a fan of Liverpool Football Club. I'll come here again as a friend and a fan and I will cheer the boys on." - GZrard Houllier