if we dont get in the CL

On Fri, 27 May 2005 18:15:32 +0100, " + Padre Ted XVIII - V

2004 Man Utd 75 points, Liverpool 60 points 2005 Man Utd 77 points, Liverpool 58 points

So you cut their lead from 15 points to 19 this season. That's an impressive rise to their "decline".

Three years ago you were second, 7 points behind Arsenal and above Chelsea, Man Utd and Everton. Every year since then you've won fewer and fewer points.

So now you're fifth - barely - with the WORST season you have ever had in terms of winning the Premiership: a mere 37 points adrift of the top. Only one time have you finished with less points, and even then you were 12 points closer to winning the title than you are now.

Compare this to another club that in just one season, after losing its best player, rose thirteen places in the league. Attaining 22 more points and winning twice as many games than the season before. Moving from the verge of relegation to the verge of Champions League qualification with more points and more wins than Liverpool did it with last season.

THAT is a rise.

Your lucky win in the CL doesn't mask the utterly abysmal league side you are, something even Liverpool fans admitted to before Wednesday night.

And when you finally get told once and for all to STFU whining and stay in the UEFA Cup where you belong, you can look forward to seeing Gerrard wearing blue in next year's Champions League final. That's if Moyes will have him. :P