QPR in CA was French Plonk in California. account ??? I thought you hailed from Mbuttachusetts or thereabouts. Or is that the other Mark Lipton? ;^) What about BV, Mondavi, Charles Krug, Louis Martini, K-J and dare I say it(!?) Gallo? They all make pretty decent stuff for ~$20 (or less). Where are the light reds from CA that compete with Does anyone really care? Where are the Chardonnays that compete price-wise with Frankly we don't make anything here in California that compares to Chablis. Our unoaked Chardonnay just isn't as interesting. As for the others, I was in Maui recently and drank a whole bunch of different California Chardonnays that were pretty darn nice, and all below $20 - most of them closer to $12. Bear in mind that's in Maui dollars, which are closer to comparable to the Euro. Some names: Meridian, K-J, Gallo, BV Coastal, BV Carneros, Edna Valley Vineyards, Mondavi. Of course none compared to Château Burbank, but I didn't see that on the shelves over there. :^ Where are the Pinots I don't know if they're directly comparable, but all the above wineries make decent Pinot Noir - most for well under $20. Where are the Zins that compete I didn't know they made any Zin in France. ;^D Perhaps on the very lowest tier, but not once you get much above that. Whereas in the regions I cite above you Of course! Those are all bottom tier wines. Also, Safeway isn't the place to get wines for the best price. Costco is more like it. When you factor in the bargain wines arriving comparison. It's a very compebreastive place out there. Yeah, I remember those days. I bought a magnum of 1974 Caymus Cab from the bottle shop in St. Helena for the (then) astronomical price of $15. Of course at the time I was only making about $3.50-hour. The Ridge Lytton Springs was just as good then as it is now, and it was $4.50. At the time, however, gasoline was close to 50¢ per gallon. I still Tell me about it! Unfortunately, the French have indirectly contributed to those nosebleed prices. The top vintners in California see what the châteaus are getting for their clbuttified growths, which are arguably of similar quality, and see no reason not to maintain price parity. Hence wines like Aurajo, Screaming Eagle, Opus, Insignia etc. are all as far out of reach as Lafite, Latour etc. And my rebuttal. Tom S
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